hello everyone, i want us to discuss the gbs right to control jws.
the gb claim, and rf jws believe that they can't understand the bible without help from the gb.
when you ask them why they listen to the gb you hear stuff like .
. . . brainwashed for too long (short answer).
Although collectively called the GB, its individual members are of the anointed “class”.
Talking about those having “truly received this anointing” it is claimed that they have no special insights, nor does their holy spirit abound beyond what some experienced members of the “great crowd” have. — The Watchtower 2009, June 15, pp. 23-24 par. 15
Just putting 2 + 2 together. Be your own prophet.
hello folks:.
i was just thinking...what do you think the borg would look like if they said it's no longer necessary to do the preaching work...it's voluntary?
1. some would go tru the motions just to appear 'spiritually strong'.
If they restored the V. D. M. (Verbi Dei Minister) honorary degree they used to issue, perhaps some would be inclined to volunteer for the badge.
a friend of mine just got given a recording of the last ca which was held here a couple of weeks ago and she said there's been a change to the 144k teaching.
she didn't understand what the hell they were rabbiting on about.
she's really waking up as a result of all these changes, and so are some others she knows.. anyone know of any change to the 144k doctrine?
They have stated that the anointed (sealed ones) - especially former GB members - already in heaven are helping bigtime in formulating new truths. God bless.
i mentioned i was cleaning the forum archive when i bumped this thread by oompa:.
damm i miss jwd...this place will always be jwd to me.... rather than turn that into a discussion of the archive, i'll answer slimboyfat's concern here.. the things i'm clearing up are either:.
time specific and non jw related (e.g.
. . . it's every bit like rewriting JWNs heritage.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/dog_attack_victim_recovering_back_to_jehovahs_witness/20130629_11_a1_cutlin782235?subj=1.
by bill sherman world religion writer on jun 29, 2013. .
beverly wright walked with a cane, slowly, avoiding uneven ground on wednesday morning as she went door-to-door on north delaware avenue inviting people to an upcoming jehovah's witnesses convention.. a week ago she had what she hopes will be her last of five skin grafts to repair wounds she received march 19 when a pit bull mauled her so badly that doctors told her she might lose her leg.. wright, 43, could have escaped injury that tuesday morning when an 80-pound pit bull burst through the front door of a house in the 200 block of n. lewis place and attacked her ministry companion and longtime friend, irene parker, 78.. but it never occurred to her not to help her friend.. both women were severely injured in the attack.
The two women have been in contact with Mike Harrell, the man who shot the dog. "He's very polite and humble," said Mike Elliott, Parker's son-in-law. Harrell saved Wright's life, and Wright saved Parker's life, Elliott said. "And I believe Jehovah had a hand in it," he said. "We believe angels accompany us in ministry."
The WTBTS does a real brainf@*k on these people - by having them believe Jehovah was "really good toward them".
. . . just perusing:
*** Jehovah Cares for You ***
Are you convinced of Jehovah’s saving power? Are you aware of his angelic protection? Have you personally tasted and seen that Jehovah is good? When was the last time that you were particularly conscious that Jehovah had been good to you? Try to recall. Was it at that last home you visited in the ministry, just as you were feeling you could do no more?
w02 10/15 pp. 17-18 par. 16
*** How Angels Can Help You ***
Do angels care for people and protect them? The apostle Paul asked: “Are they [angels] not all spirits for public service, sent forth to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation?” (Hebrews 1:14) Clearly, the answer to Paul’s question is yes.
w98 11/15 p. 6
so, unexpectedly, the final talk was announced today and to my surprise and evil glee, they announced gerrit loesch as the speaker!
first off, at the beginning of his talk, he interrupted himself in the middle of his sentence to scold the microphone brother to lower my mike it's right in my face.. anyway, it was the talk on inspired truth, vs. inspired falsehoods.
he went through 6 expressions inspired by the demons.
goatshapeddemon >>> Perhaps this will help:
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It's a slow connection (copy & paste the web address to your browser). Should it not work, I can send the zip file to you be email, or upload it to 4shared - if you want.
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I would love to hear what GL had to whine about in detail.
Please make it work and upload it to e.g. sendspace.
for the first time in years today.
to say that it took me five minutes to read the whole thing would be to flatter the rag.
it doesn't even seem to contain actual articles any more, just headings and bullet points and pictures.
Coming up soon (Sep/Oct), the WT & Awake will be bundled into one 32 page magazine. Will it be counted by the R&F as a one or two magazine placement(s)?
I guess for an answer they will have to wait on the Our Kingdom Ministry discussing it in detail, complete with audience participation and on stage demonstrations.
coming off from my thread on the great crowd, (once again thanks td, annomaly and all the others for their help), a question on the other sheep in the 33ce - 1935 ce for the great jwn mind hive.. the qfr in the w86 8/1 p31 ends up with confirming about the other sheep pre-33ce:.
someone might reason: jesus was pointing to a future gathering of other sheep, hence the term applies only to those who, after jesus spoke, would accept the biblical hope of everlasting life on earth.
however, it seems unnecessary to confine the term thusly, as if jesus were defining matters chronologically or sequentially.
From Zion's Watch Tower, March 15, 1905:
so my mum excitedly calls and tells me how the brothers are now told to pack a survival emergency bag, so the tribulation is coming!!!
talk about clutching at straws.
shes packed her bible of course and the some non essential stuff like food...he he.
Of course, they copied it right out of a United Nations brochure that is much more readable.
The WTBTS has no God-given idea on how to protect you any better during a disaster than the rest of mankind.
The sole soul massager germinating from their minds is prayer.
quick question, faithful followers of our treacherous hearts... .
i should know the answer to this but.... so the great crowd class were identified in 1935, but does the wt suggest when it's members first appeared on earth?
all first century christians were of the annointed (i think that's right), so when do they think the first of the great crowd rolled up?.
Please, permit me to add to the JW confusion:
Recently, Jesus had comforted his followers, saying: “Have no fear, little flock, because your Father has approved of giving you the kingdom.” This little flock, which eventually numbers 144,000, comes into this new, or second, sheepfold. But Jesus goes on to observe: “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.”
Since the “other sheep” are “not of this fold,” they must be of another fold, a third one. These last two folds, or pens of sheep, have different destinies. The “little flock” in one fold will rule with Christ in heaven, and the “other sheep” in the other fold will live on the Paradise earth. Yet, despite being in two folds, the sheep have no jealousy, nor do they feel segregated, for as Jesus says, they “become one flock” under “one shepherd.”
The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived, chap. 80 - The Sheepfolds and the Shepherd
